couple queries

[ax25nut]

Howdy, Bryan!

I've been looking over the tools in s4c for adjusting the desktop settings and can't find a way to hide the panel/tray at the bottom of the desktop. Usually this is done under desktop/tray/hiding settings in the menu, or under "jwm settings", but I haven't found that option here. Does it not exist, or am I just missing that because I'm using a netbook? I always hide it so I have more room. Perhaps I can edit the file on the partition....

Also, AOGOS seems to work really well so far on my desktop machine. I haven't tried the networking out yet on that, so I'll let you know how that goes, too. The bible apps I've tried are nice. I think a lot of folks are going to like this.

As for AOG on the netbook, it's a no-go. It can't find any screens in xconf when I try to run it there. I might have to manually edit that file to allow that resolution as well. For that matter, I might be able to copy/paste the appropriate parts out of s4c into the AOGOS to make X work properly. I haven't done that before (never had to), although I'm told it can be done. I did, after all, get this netbook to play with and tinker. I've already spent almost as much on memory upgrades as I did for the netbook itself, not to mention all the OS-swapping I've done! It's too cute to ignore, although we both know that everyone won't be using such a netbook, some preferring the more common laptop instead. You should be aware that I have yet to get ANY Slackware 13.x to run on my netbooks, so there may be an issue out of our control there. Just wanted to let you know what I've found so far. Later, dude! Gotta' go visit someone...

73

[bryan]

OH

there's a folder named .jwm in /root
look in there for a file named jwmrc-tray
that file controls the tray
it does have a autohide

Mmmm...not sure about AOG and X for a netbook
as you said it may be a slack issue....
did you try using the vesa xorg.conf?
just copy /etc/X11/xorg.conf-vesa to /etc/X11/xorg.conf

cp -r /etc/X11/xorg.conf-vesa /etc/X11/xorg.conf

I'm workin on a new aogos-like made off of the nflux slack edition
maybe I should switch to debian nflux and build a christian distro off that
as it'd be easier

[ax25nut]

I've noticed that slack13, like a lot of other distros, seem to have problems with things upon release, and I regard this as normal, which is why I'm staying with 12.2 on my machines here. That also may explain why your newest entry doesn't work right on my netbooks. I'm not overly worried about it. Although I'll try almost anything, I only continue with what works for me, and since I use netbooks, that narrows the field somewhat. I haven't had time to devote to configuring things from scratch here, and have little desire to reinvent the wheel, so no problem there.

Now, as to the jwmrc-tray file in s4c....I found it, but I'm unable to change it like I want. I've tried to use other editors but can't locate it with them. I think there's a simple fix to "open with...." another editor, which is what I'll end up doing. I've never used "vi" before, and it doesn't seem to work like any other editor I've tried, and I've used some old stuff here. Learning curve <sigh>. I've noticed the data-save file (or whatever it's called) that 's used for establishing persistence is in there somewhere, too. You might consider using a script like the one in puppy linux, which enables persistence upon first shutdown using an autoscript. On that, you simply choose the size of the save file you want and go with it. It'll make your distro really easy for others to use, which will make it very popular. I use fresh mode right now on all these, as enabling persistence has proven too frustrating for me. Right now, the editor issue is keeping me from editing anything or making any changes. I'd still like to try one of these on an ext2 drive with full install. While others seem to like frugal installs, I really detest them, as I get confused everytime I try to find something in the file manager. Had the same problem with some usb puppies, which prompted me to abandon them. Personal preference.

By the way, I've been meaning to ask....what does "exalt" and "smite" mean? Is that a bit of dry humor I see?

73 de ax25nut

[bryan]

Hey bro;
LOL
the exalt/smite thing is this forums idea
I use proboards.com free forum so all I did was add the different forum catagories,etc.
www.proboards.com/

and so your now exalted!

Also I think you gotta edit /root/.jwmrc
open pcmanfm file manager, right-click the hidden .jwmrc file and choose to open it with
Leafpad.

Find where it says Additional Tray attributes
and add a entry for autohide, etc

  <!-- Additional tray attributes: autohide, width, border, layer, layout -->   <Tray  x="0" y="-1" height="17" autohide="1">


I think autohide=1 is to hide it, autohide=0 to show...
I use pcmanfm with leafpad in everything.

also, a little clarification on how Linux frugal persistent cd/usb stuff works.
I'm gonna assume that you are a "beginner" with no Linux experience.

Basically, you have two types of Linux systems; a traditional hard-drive install as with a usual slackware/debian,etc installation.
The other type is the livecd/usb system which is actually a installed system thats been compressed into a read-only bootable medium.

The traditonal system runs at lower resources but takes up much more space on hdd
the livecd system has to load its system into RAM, using more ram,etc, but it is smaller and portable.

The advantage and disadvantage to the livecd system is taht its read-only; changes,etc are destroyed upon reboot,etc

So, the solution is to make a sepearte "container" thats read-write
with some distros they just place a folder or gzipped file(s) on usb or hdd and place their persistent files there. like DSL
Other distros actually use a "container", sort of like a qemu img file
its formatted on the inside usaully ext2,ext3, or xfs.

Slax can do both, save to a folder or save to a file or container.
the slaxsave.dat is a xfs formatted persistent "container"; slax comes with like
5 premade ones, from 128MB to 2GB in size.

I put the slaxsave.zip in the aogos-1.0 and nflux_13.1z folders
unzip the slaxsave.dat somewhere, choose a size; unzip that
it will unzip to a file named "slaxsave.dat"
thats the persistent file
place it on usb or hdd and when you boot edit your syslinux.cfg and where it says
"changes=" put there "changes=slaxsave.dat" with no qoutes

if you put the slaxsave.dat in a folder or rename it, edit the syslinux.cfg
like changes=/nflux_13.z/slaxsave.dat or changes=/nflux_13.z/ax25nutsave.dat

so, tell me if you get the persistent thing going

also, if you have a spare 3.5GB partition or bigger somewhere
you can install aogos or nflux to hdd
use the nflux-installer in agos but you will have to exit installer when it asks to install lilo if you want to install grub1
then use grubconfig from menu or setup grub manually

[bryan]

OK

UPDATE!

I grabbed the source for salixos' livecd "PersistencWizard" a gui app
for making a xfs "slxsave.xfs" persistent save file for usb/hdd

basically, download this lzm
multidistro.com/downloads/Apps/usb-persistent.lzm

and put it in aogos-1.0/base or aogos-1.0/modules folder
and change the syslinux.cfg to say
changes=slxsave.xfs

then boot up and mount the usb or hdd partition where you want to put the save file.
mount /mnt/sdb1

to find your partitions do fdisk -l in terminal, as root

choose PersistenceWizard from fbpanel menu
and point it to where you mounted usb/hdd and tell it how big of save file
then after its done
reboot and choose the persistent boot option where you edited the syslinux.cfg
and it should all work??

[ax25nut]

Yeah, the differences between live, frugal, and full installs were a bit of a mystery to me. I never bothered to look a lot into what all was going on when I used slack & bsd back in the 90's, and probably should have. Hindsight. I had too much fun playing with other stuff. I'm not what you'd call a 'nix guru or even adept....I'm a user of such things, and I use them because they're NOT windozing on me. Rock-solid dependability, immunity from a lot of garbage/malware....you get the idea. Sometimes I easily grasp technical details while still scratching my head and pulling my hair out over the simplest things. Go figure. My son did spooky things with windoze when he was in high school computer labs. I was still having fun with DOS, and I could still (at that time) log into my isp using shell access, although I think they frowned upon the practice, as my account was actually a Win3x account into the late 90's. I was still using that same 386 into the new millenium. I still would be, but things change, and that requires more ram, more oomph from the cpu, etc....

Anyway, I'll try the aforementioned in your post as soon as I get the chance. Thanks for the info.